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[Chris Croome]

Hi Jamie

Hmm, I though my little tutorial was fairly clear...

  http://mkdoc.com/help/howtos/subversion/

I guess this is a good oppertunity to update it and make it
better...  do you have any suggestions?

On Fri 16-Jul-2004 at 12:27:50PM +0100, Jamie Marriott wrote:
> 
> I have installed TortoiseSVN on my desktop machine, but I am a
> little unclear on how you use it to access files on your server in
> order to modify them. I have used Windows explorer to browse to
> the URL ( http://svn.mkdoc.com/bndfc/ ) but this just accesses the
> directories in Internet Explorer (web browser) stlye, opening any
> htm docs. as a web page. 

Yep, what you need to do is to create a new folder somewhere on your
computer. Then right click and select Checkout like this:

  http://mkdoc.com/help/howtos/subversion/right-click-and-select-checkout.png

Then you need to enter the URL of the repo, which is
http://svn.mkdoc.com/bndfc/ into the form, like this:

  http://mkdoc.com/help/howtos/subversion/enter-the-ulr-of-the-repository-and-click-ok.png

This should result in all the file in the repo appearing on your
computer and while the files are being checked out you should see
something like this: 

  http://mkdoc.com/help/howtos/subversion/listing-of-all-the-files-being-checked-out.png

> I'm not sure how you use this (if you use this at all!) to
> actually open files on your server, edit them and then 'save' them
> (is a matter of viewing the source and then, once I've been given
> an account, making alterations and then saving?).

No, once you have done the above you can then edit files locally and
changed files should appear like this:

  http://mkdoc.com/help/howtos/subversion/an-amended-file-which-is-marked-to-show-it-has-been-changed.png

And then to upload (commit) the files to the server you can right
click and select commit, like this:

  http://mkdoc.com/help/howtos/subversion/right-click-and-select-commit-to-upload-your-changes.png

Is this any clearer?

> A chapter in the help for Tortoise talks about installing Apache.
> I'm not sure whether this means install it on your server, in
> which case I guess it's there already as you have done that side
> of things, or whether it's saying I need it on my desktop
> computer.

No you don't need to install Apache, it runs on the server side.

> I have attatched the chapter from the help that comes with
> Tortoise (as a .rtf and .htm file) if you need to look at it,
> which also mentions downloading the latest version of Subversion.
> Again I ask the same questions I asked of Apache - does this go on
> my machine or on the server i.e. do I need it?

No, Subversion (in this case) is only needed on the server.

> I'm just trying to get my head round the whole process at the
> moment, having only ever used FTP in the past - edit a file on my
> computer, open the FTP client, drag that file from the window that
> represents my local directory and plonk it in the corresponding
> server directory! I guess it's not going to be like that...!

Well it depands which CMS you use -- Plone does have a built in FTP
server and it would work just like that for updating templates and
also content (AFAIK... I'm currently reading the book:
http://plone.org/documentation/book/ and I have the dead tree
version on order...
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1590593294/002-1064754-6704044).

Chris

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Chris Croome                               <chris at webarchitects.co.uk>
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